WHAT HUMAN NEED TRIGERRED THE NEED OF A VOCAL-LEARNING ARTIFACT?

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 65391
Date: 2009-11-09

>or the Human were Grouped in Small Groups (families?) at that time, and these
>small groups were obliged to cooperate anong them in hunting and not only due to
>some restrictive conditions....but they were separated by huge distances --in
>large steppes...so in order to initiate contacts ,to can organize the hunting,
>to signal the ennemies, to meet for mating, they needed to generate a complex
>vocalisation system to be used across large distances...

>Marius


I NEED TO COMPLE MYSELF because I think that this is the right direction:

1.- the humans were in that times grouped in small families
2.- each family has a relative large territory under his ownership (in relation with his size)
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==> so they were grouped, somehow, like the Lions Families are grouped today
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- but in contradiction with the strength of one Lion Family the Human Family has at that Moment in Time ====> SOME BIG ISSUES TO SURVIVE IN THIS ORGANIZATION

-> either the food started to be rare and very hard to be procured by the force of a Single Family, either the natural enemies of the Humans in that areal, started to be so many and so strong that a Human Family cannot fight against them, by his own....even all these things happened together that is usually the case when the natural ressources started to miss in one areal......
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==> SO THE SINGLE WAY FOR HUMANS TO SURVIVE IN THIS CONTEXT WAS TO ALLOW ONE FAMILY TO START TO COOPERATE WITH OTHER FAMILIES SITUATED IN DIFFERENT TERRITORIES.
==> BUT BECAUSE OF THE TERRITORIAL ORGANIZATION->ISOLATION OF THESE FAMILIES A COMPLEX COMMUNICATION SYSTEM HAS BECOME REALLY NECESSARY TO APPEAR, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE COMMUNICATION ACROSS RELATIVELY LARGE DISTANCES, SO ACCROSS DIFFERENT TERRITORIES OWNED BY DIFFERENT FAMILIES
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THIS WAS THE NEED THAT REQUESTED THE APPEARENCE OF A VOCAL-LEARNING SYSTEM IN HUMANS
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---------------> It was a time of a mixed organization for Humans
a) the territory of a single Human Family was preserved and remained large
b) but the Humans Families needed to meet together, from time to time, finally in order to can survive --> this means --> in order to succeed in some delicate operations:
- hunting (maybe the humans became hunters only at this moment too: remember one FOXP2 mutation is shared with the Carnivores) and
- to can defend together against different natural enemies.

===>>>>>>>>>>>>> IN THIS CRITICAL MOMENT FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE HUMAN RACE, THE HUMAN GENETIC SYSTEM DECIDED TO PUT THE QUESTION :

"DO THE HUMANS NEED A VOCAL-LEARNING SYSTEM?" --> this was implemented by trigerring in one or few individuals (spermatogenesis?), in the FOXP2 gene, the 2 genetic changes, allowing to the existing artifact (-> 'the vocal-learning system') to appears in that individuals.....

Sooner the <Darwinian Selection> played its Role:
and the answer was YES : THE HUMAN NEEDS A VOCAL-LEARNING SYSTEM --> the YES answer were the answer of the environment : the changes in FOXP2 gene were rapidly propagated and fixed in all the human population --> THAT ONES POSSESING A WAY TO LEARN AND TO TRANSMIT LEARNED-SOUNDS HAS HAD AN ENORMOUS SURVIVAL ADVANTAGE AGAINST THAT ONES THAT DIDN'T POSSES IT (--> the Nature is crude in relation with the nindividuals that NEED TO DIE)


As a Result: The groups of Human Families, possesing now a vocal-learning system, started to cooperate and to synchronize them better and better ....

So it seems that you need to be really down in order to can really go up....

Also the huge territorial ownership possesed by each Single Human Family started to dimish and to dissapear for some Humans.....
(you can see where this stuation arrived today : a Human Family is forced to leave in 100sqm or even less :))

If Marx will be here, he will say that this was the moment of the Appereance of the First Human Social Organization outside the inherited model of the Human Family....


Marius


P.S. I think that at least, this is a common-sense scenario -- in comparison with a 'Knowledge-Niche' postulated by some.....etc....