Re: WHAT HUMAN NEED TRIGERRED THE NEED OF A VOCAL-LEARNING ARTIFACT

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 65390
Date: 2009-11-09

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> 3.d The LAST QUESTION THAT I CANNOT ANSWER IS THE FOLLOWING:
> WHAT HUMAN NEED TRIGERRED THE NEED OF A VOCAL-LEARNING ARTIFACT?
>
> FOR THE Echolocating-BATS is clear : THEY NEED TO EAT...AND THEY FIND THEIR PREY BASED ON THIS......
> FOR THE SINGING BIRDS WAS IMPORTANT TO REFINE THEY SEXUAL-SELECTION MECHANISMS
> FOR THE WHALES AND DOLPHINS THIS WAS DUE TO THE LARGE DISTANCES INSIDE THE OCEANS..... THAT MADE HARD TO MEET EACH OTHERS...WITHOUT A GOOD VOCALISATION SYSTEM....
>
> BUT FOR THE FIRST HUMANS?
> a) were they isolated in some innacesible landings were they couldn't see each others? huge forests? Rocky mountains? etc....so they really needs to improve their VOCAL ARTIFACT SYSTEM in order to can meeet each other , in order to can hunt together (see that, one of that changes is shared with the CARNIVORES -- this cannot be 'by chance')
>
> So I Think that: The Environment at that stage was one that didn't allow Humans to see each other, and to coordinate very easy each other in the nature.....even their eyes were good enough for this....
>
> And because there are 2 changes maybe we are talking about 2 different NEEDS ....
> - ONE NEED WAS FOR SURE RELATED TO THE HUNTING PROCESS BECAUSE IS SHARED WITH THE CARNIVORES......BUT THE OTHER ONE? THE UNIQUE ONE?
> to be used for what? inside some Huge forests? or inside some Rocky mountains?
>
> Marius
>

or the Human were Grouped in Small Groups (families?) at that time, and these small groups were obliged to cooperate anong them in hunting and not only due to some restrictive conditions....but they were separated but huge distances --in large steppes...so in order to initiate contacts ,to can organize the hunting, to signal the ennemies, to meet for mating, they needed to generate a complex vocalisation system to be used across large distances...

Marius