Re: Aryan invasion theory and race

From: Francesco Brighenti
Message: 65151
Date: 2009-09-29

I hope that after this paroxysm of excess gall and biliousness, which has evidently exploded from your liver into your head, you managed to go back to your daily occupations with a feeling of relief.

Francesco





--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "vishalsagarwal" <vishalagarwal@...> wrote:
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> Why should I admit to being someone that I am not?? Is that too difficult for you to understand? It is irrelevant whether Hindutva has a pejorative connotation here or not. The point here is that I refuse to accept your designation of my persona. I know who I am and people should honor my self-description.
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> In my understanding, a Hindutva-vadin is one who subscribes to the views of Savarkar, Golwalkar etc. For from following them, I have not even read them. As you said, anyone can read internet postings by me to see for himself/herself. In the eyes of prejudiced hatemongering bigots like you, anyone who says that he is a Hindu and holds certain views based on his understanding of data automatically becomes a Hindutvavaadi. This attitude is perhaps not different from what Nazis had towards Jews, or Fascists had towards their pet hate objects.
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> Likewise, anyone can see for themselves that you are a racist and white supermacist in the eyes of many Indians. You may deny it, but your actions speak louder than your words. Actually, your words speak loud too, to that effect. No wonder you are such a welcome member on other racist and Mafiosi lists (cybalist is not one of them in my opinion). For example, the 'SS' list that is closed to 'the other' except a chosen few racist Indologists from Norway, Poland, Germany, Italy.
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> Vishal
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "vishalsagarwal" <vishalagarwal@> wrote:
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> > > I am not a Hindutva ideologue,
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> > Such a phoney statement is disproved by your entire career as an Internet writer and poster starting from the late 1990s, as some members of even *this* list could testify.
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> > I don't understand your reluctance and imbarassment in openly admitting you're a Hindutvavadin. Nobody here holds this politco-ideological characterization constitutes an offence or insult _per se_ (as, for instance, is the use of the term "racist" to characterize the intellectual positions of the supporters of the so-called AIT, a dishonest practice you're very much familiar with).
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> > > unless Francesco is a white supermacist and a racist. In the eyes
> > > of some people like Herr Francesco, anyone with a darker skin than
> > > his must have some ideological motivations and therefore incapable
> > > of serious and objective scholary pursuits.
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> > Nothing could be farther from my personal convictions and feelings. I've got scores of friends and acquaintances whose skin is darker than mine (be they Indians, Afro-Americans, or Arabs); some among them are scholars, and I never thought for a moment that their darker skin colour would make them "incapable of serious and objective scolarly pursuits".
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> > The lack of objectivity you refer to, and which prevents you and the rest of your Hindutva politico-ideological fellows from achieving any scholarly pursuits, isn't due to your skin colour but rather to your strict adherence to a religion-based nationalist political ideology.
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> > Regards,
> > Francesco
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