Re: Frankish origins

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> In light of that, I'll rephrase and ask again:
> Is the following scenario possible:
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> 0) Yazygian has a root *far- (< *par-, f- < p-, cf (Alanic? and) Ossetic) "hostile, other" (cf. Pokorny
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/65037
> ) and the derivative *far-�ng- "enemy, one of the others". Yazygians in Pannonia use them to designate the Romans and those who enter their service. In the language of those people this becomes their self-dignation and *far�ng- becomes pre-Frankish *fr�ng- (or, if p- was preserved in Yazygian, *par-�ng- > *fr-�ng-, cf. Avestan); when they adopt PGmc as language it becomes with Grimm *fr�nk-.
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> 1) *fr�ng- is loaned into Greek
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> 2) and extended to designate Normans
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> 3) Arabic faranj/ifranj is borrowed from Greek (if not already from Yazygian)
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> 4) Persian Farangi/Firingi 'a European' (> Hindi/Urdu Feringi 'Id.') is borrowed from Alanian/Ossetian/Yazygian
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> Now tell me why this couldn't have happened.
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Would you know when was the word firangi used for the first time?

In Iran I thought a similar word represents light violet color. In Hindi "rang" is color and firang could have something to do with color.

Also could the Varangians of constantinople be the root of this word? Similar words like warengangi were also in use in Italy by the the lombard kings:

Omnes Warengangi, qui de exteris finibus in regni nostri finibus advenerint,seque sub scuto potestatis nostrae subdiderint, legibus nostris Longobardorum vivere debeant

-Shivraj