Re: Laryngeals Indo-Uralic

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> ***R Would English ice < gicel < *Hieg/k- (vel sim) and Uralic *jäNe work as examples?
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> Loans is nicer.
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/60884
> It accounts for two traditionally unconnected IE roots.
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> Form in donor language something like *in,g- (note B.-Sl. forms
> with -n-), partitive genitive *in,g-s- (as in *gl-á-s- "coagulated,
> jelly stuff") -> *i:-s- -> *ei-s-. If so it came from the same
> source as *gl-á-s-.

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> Torsten I meant "icecicle" --

So did I. Both the 'ice' and the 'icle' part.

> thanks for pointing it out but you lost me with the *gl-a-s thing

1. PIE *gel- "freeze, coagulate" or *g^el- "shine" (probably the same
root *g^el- anyway)
2. participle of that *gl-á- "something frozen"
3. partitive genitive of that *gl-á-s "a quantity of something frozen"
(cf the partitive genitive in obs. German 'eine Flasche guten Weins' "a bottle *of* good wine").

Similarly

*in,-
1. Old endingless nominative *in,# -> *in,k -> *i:k ->
(eventually) '-icle'
2. Partitive genitive *in,-s -> *i:-s -> (eventually) 'ice'


Torsten