Re: Town, Zaun, and Celtic Dun-

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 64905
Date: 2009-08-21



--- On Fri, 8/21/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
Subject: [tied] Re: Town, Zaun, and Celtic Dun-
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 5:32 PM

 

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "andythewiros" <anjarrette@ ...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@> wrote:
> >
> > At 3:23:54 PM on Friday, August 21, 2009, andythewiros wrote:
> >
> > > To tell the truth, I made up "Jawanda" out of thin air, I
> > > couldn't at that moment remember another actual
> > > African-American girl's name.
> >
> > It actually does exist: a Jawanda King ran 24.11 in the
> > women's 200m at the USATF Junior Olympic Track & Field
> > Championships this summer.
> >
> > The results lists from that event are a good source of such
> > names, by the way: <Ta'Janeece> , <Camesha>, <DeOna>,
> > <Shaquana>, <Danheisha>, <Laniece>, <Lamesha>, <Keyonnia>,
> > <Jalisha>, <Uniqua>, <Jeronda>, <Tralanda>, <Jerika>,
> > <Shanania>, <Myshauna>, <J'Quyra>, <Kawanna>, <Johniqua>,
> > ... .
> >
> > > I knew 'Lawanda' but I didn't want to make it sound like
> > > they all begin with 'La-', so I improvised.
> >
> > The <La-> family is one of the largest one, at least on the
> > feminine side.
> >
> > Brian
> >
>
> Actually I looked up 'Lakeisha' and 'Lawanda' and found out that
> some of these African-American names are of Arabic or Swahili
> origin. However, many are merely rhyming-variants of Arabic or
> Swahili words, or of names of other origin. 'Lakeisha', according
> to the website, may be either of Arabic, Swahili, or rhyming origin
> (rhyme of 'Letitia'/'Leticia' , from Latin 'joy'); 'Lawanda' is
> listed as of American origin (hence created).
>
Since those names are not of West African origin we can conclude on the basis of names there was a break in naming tradition before this ethnic group so to speak re-invented its separateness. And we know from other evidence that this was so. Now, in order to argue that the names in P- were re-created on Brtish soil, you'd have to argue for a similar sequence of events in the history of this particular ethnic group.

Torsten

Some of these name DO come from West Africa, e.g. Cuffie and versions of Akan "day-names" are and have always been out there. Some Islamic names have also always been around in the African-American community