Re: The "Golden Cemetery" of the kuban r.

From: george knysh
Message: 64730
Date: 2009-08-13

--- On Thu, 8/13/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:



--- In cybalist@... s.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> Here's something more recent than Shchukin or Veselovskyi:
>
> http://kronk. narod.ru/ library/guschina -zasetskaya- 1994.htm
>
> Judging by the contents account (and that's all we have here) the
> burials were of the "catacomb" type. That settles it: this was the
> primary Alanic custom. So these are Alanic graves. Not "barbarized
> Romans" (Veselovskyi) nor "Romanized barbarians" of uncertain
> Sarmatian ethnicity (Shchukin). Yatsenko peripherally speaks of the
> "kurgans" and gakks of this cemetery (in your "tamga feast"
> posting). The Roman influence is probably explainable by the
> political contacts of the Bosporan kingdom. Which was actively
> "sarmatized" from the 1rst c. CE. These Sarmats were Alans (this we
> know from many sources).

Romanized Alans, then.

****GK: As "Romanized" as the kings of Bosporus who all called themselves "Iulius Tiberius" (in honour of the Roman Emperor) but spoke Greek and Sarmatian (Alanic)...Bosporus was not "Romanized" but "Sarmatized" in the 1rst-3rd c. CE****

Strange that neither Shchukin or Veselovskiy knew that, if it's so obvious?

****GK: Maybe they were fascinated by the Roman imports. BTW note that the multiple foreign imports in the Tillya Tepe graves did not turn these nobles into "internationalized" ethnics. They remained Kushan nomads. And the Koktepe princess likewise remained Kangar. Ditto in Kuban re the Alans. And there is nothing surprising about archaeologists who make a more thorough survey of the material to come to different conclusions from those of their predecessors. For instance, Shchukin himself corrected Baran on an important point re the archaeology of Galicia in the 4th c. CE, and proved that the latter's contention about the Slavic culture of the population at that time was mistaken and premature. This is what apparently has happened with the initial evaluations of the Golden Cemetary finds: not barbarized Romans, not Romanized barbarians of uncertain ethnicity, but Alans who liked Roman stuff in their yurts (:=)))****