RE : [tied] Re: North of the Somme

From: caotope
Message: 64480
Date: 2009-07-30

> Finno-Ugric
> 'Hungarian féreg, férge- worm; vermin; noxious animal |
> Komi perk Phthirius pubis |
> Mansi peerk worm.'

Either of Mansi or Komi may be a loan from the other. Or we can explain both with *-rkk-, but that would not produce -g- in Hung.

> Maybe I'll add this
> fi permu (, perma)
> larva of gadfly (Oedemagena, Hypoderma, etc.);
> tuber on the body of an animal,
> containing such a larva |
> osN pir&m gadfly;
> boil caused by larva (beneath the skin of reindeer);
> pîrm&n, (of reindeer hide:) with holes caused by gadfly larvae.

Once we get into gadflies & such, Uralic also has *parma, in Finnic, Mari and Khanty at least; and Samic *poaró. Mordvinic puromo fits better together with the latter. Comparision points for this side of semantics are to be found on the IE side too.

Also plain "fly":
F. *kärpä- (Livonian käärmi), Mo. karvo, Ma. karme
with an irregular (non-inherited?) cluster. Finnic has probably affectiv fronting.

John Vertical