Re: Mid-first century BCE Yazigian prerequisites

From: tgpedersen
Message: 64417
Date: 2009-07-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- On Fri, 7/24/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> Why do you keep mentioning Wielbark?
>
> ****GK: Because that is another local culture where inhumations
> appear "suddenly". And Wielbark replaces a cremation culture
> (Oksywie). Wielbark is bi-ritual, and there is nothing in the
> funeral inventory to suggest alien ethnic influx.

Except that we know there was.

> That makes it similar to the 1rst c. BCE Przeworsk inhumations, and
> to Eggers' and Lichardus' Elbe Germanic situation.

Yes it does. It also, as your argument stands, gives us a precedence of a culture which we know has foreign influence, which changes to inhumation, and yet has no detectable foreign influence in the find material. Since it is similar to the 1rst c. BCE Przeworsk inhumations, and to Eggers' and Lichardus' Elbe Germanic situation they therefore also have non-detactable foreign influence. Own goal.
Thank you, George, for providing me with this wonderful argument.
BTW And you call *me* dense?

> My view is that the Wielbark shift might have been influenced by
> the earlier Marbod shift since the Gutones were part of his
> empire.****

My view is that Wielbark shift was influenced by the immigrating Goths who were an original people of Scandinavia leaving because of the invasion of inhumating Germani, but being lead by some of them, therefore the partial inhumation fashion.


Torsten