Re: Fwd: Re: [tied] Re: That old Ariovistus scenario.

From: george knysh
Message: 64337
Date: 2009-07-05

--- On Sun, 7/5/09, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

Scholar, not scholars. Boosen.
GK: He cites others.
Erh, OK.
(GK) So that whatever changes are noted in the Oder/Warthe and other regions in the 1rst c. BCE are changes due to internal dynamics
(and afterwards with interaction with the Romans), not to cultural
or other influxes from the east.

The interesting part is that the provenance of these new elements
are not discussed at all.

GK: Well you picked the source. Find a better one. Surely there
are archaeological publications which comment on the identity and
provenance of these inventories at least broadly "local" vs. "imports". The ball's in your court here.

I haven't seen any. Do you feel up to the task of discussing the provenance of those particular grave goods which should or shouldn't be there?

****GK:Have a look at V. Mordvinceva's "Sarmatian Phalerae" It's a publication of the Deutsches Archeologisches Institut, Eurasien-Abteilung (around 2001?== particulars available on line. Check "Sarmatian phalerae".) I haven't looked at this, but it should give a pretty goods idea of one item to expect in a Sarmatian grave. Of course, cremation burials can be crossed out immediately. Other things to be checked: body position; weapons; ceramics; jewellery.*****