Re: That old Ariovistus scenario.

From: tgpedersen
Message: 64257
Date: 2009-06-25

> There were Charudes
>
> ****GK: Who were not Slavs.****
>
> > The name is not even attested until the 3rd c.AD (Bosporan
> > Kingdom).
>
> Ah, so you do recognize the name on the Tanais stone to represent "Croat".
>
> ****GK: I would accept this. The standard view is that originally
> the "Croats" were a non-Slavic (perhaps Iranic?) group which later
> mingled with some Slavs and transferred their name to them
> (something akin to the "Bulgar" phenomenon, and I could give other
> examples).
>
> Tanis is another area with high concentration of haplogroup I.
>
> ****GK Whatever that proves it doen't prove Slavdom"***
>
It corresponds with he occurrence of the *Xarud- name.

> Furthermore that group seems to have gone through a bottleneck, ie.
> have consisted at a time of very few men. How does that link up
> with Snorri et al.?

How would you account for the movement of Croats from Tanais to Southern Slavland? When? The communis opinio of Slavic infiltration in the 6th-7th centuries has no archaelogical match-up. A Slavic dispersal so to speak under cover of the Germanic and Iranian (Alan) migrations would solve that problem.



Torsten