Re: Gmc. w-/g-, j-/g-

From: tgpedersen
Message: 63573
Date: 2009-03-05

> > See if you can get the Uralisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch from
your
> > library.
>
> OK, but is there no textbook or historical book, rather than a
dictionary? It would be
> easier to understand the story of these languages rather than random
words, I would think,
> even if their etymologies contain stories in themselves.

Daniel Abondolo:
The Uralic Languages

Gyula Décsy:
The Uralic Protolanguage: A Comprehensive Reconstruction

> It would take forever to go through all those etymologies, especially
auf Deutsch.

Don't do that.
I usually leaf through etymological dictionaries, waiting for my mind to
go: 'woops!'


> P.S. I've seen the "Ein zweites Alteuropa" translation already, but I
don't recall seeing
> anything related to these FU words in *j-.

Those are my idea. Kuhn stays on place names, no appellatives. My
conjecture is that there are a number of North European roots which
alternate G-/j- and G-/w- and have cognates in FU (and that means way
outside of IE territory), with the root vowel alternating a/u and final
stops alternating between labial and velar, and between having
prenasalization and/or gemination and not, and that they are loans from
the original NWEuropean language which is identical to Kuhn's -ar-/-ur-
language and Schrijver's language of geminates, and which was replaced
by FU in the North and IE in the South.

> I'll get to the other articles when I have time, I'm a slow reader in
German.

The main ideas are the same anyway.
Kuhn does investigate the appellative IE (supposedly) *apa/*upe/*akWa
(avon/amnis etc), which fits the above definitions perfectly.


Torsten