From: tgpedersen
Message: 63501
Date: 2009-02-28
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > AFAIK Southwestern England today has retroflex r's including
> > > > syllable-final, and I believe Shropshire does as well.
> > >
> > > Those sites I've seen present this 'retroflex r' in initial
> > > position. The interesting retroflex r is the syllable-final one
> > > which produces the preceding vowel to be r-colored. Do you have a
> > > reference on such a phoneme on the British.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I don't have a reference, but I've heard it. Up until recently
> > (perhaps a year ago) one of the characters on the British show
> > "Coronation Street" had a strongly retroflexed /r/ even in
> > syllable-final position, but he was definitely English and not North
> > American or Australian or other. I don't know where he hailed from
> > though. I have also seen various British people interviewed on TV
> > programs who had North-American style /r/'s, including syllable-
> > final, but otherwise had British pronunciation (the most recent one
> > was a program on children with extremely high IQ's). Again I can't
> > remember where they were from, but I know for sure that they were
> > English from England (their home town was indicated) and had
> > noticeable North-American-style /r/'s.
>
> Okay. Now you just have to find a way to make this English dialect
> become import this feature into the main dialect of American English.
>
>
> Torsten
>