From: tgpedersen
Message: 63345
Date: 2009-02-21
>Repeating a rule is not affirming it, and since he doesn't go into the
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "david_russell_watson" <liberty@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Also, it is strange that almost all IE languages agree that
> > > > the otherwise non-affricated dentals of PIE suddenly should
> > > > be assibilated when they meet.
> > >
> > > T. Burrow, I think it was, explained this as due to the
> > > purely phonetic insertion of [s] between two voiceless
> > > dental stops in P.I.E., or [z] between two voiced ones,
> > > later eliminated in some branches, but phonemicized in
> > > others.
> >
> > That makes no sense phonologically.
>
> The rule is affirmed in the pdf at
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/DonRinge022009.pdf ,
> linked from the page to which Daniel Milton directed us
> at http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=1160#more-1160 .
>
> It says
>
> "Schindler started from the fact that there was a
> PIE phonological rule that inserted *s between two coronal
> stops, i.e. *T+T > *TsT. That may seem strange, but it's
> not doubtful, because the same rule still operates in our
> attested Hittite; for instance, from (zero-grade) /ad-/
> 'eat' and present 2pl. subject ending /-te:ni/ you get
> azteni [atste:ni] 'you guys eat'. (The rule isn't even as
> strange as it seems. A similar rule operates in Pawnee,
> a Caddoan language spoken on the other side of the world,
> though the details are different; see Douglas R. Parks,
> A grammar of Pawnee (New York 1976: Garland), pp. 14, 42-3)."