Re: Old English and Old Norse

From: tgpedersen
Message: 63151
Date: 2009-02-19

--- In, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@...> wrote:
> --- In, "Andrew Jarrette" <anjarrette@> wrote:
> >
> > Note that OE <g> had both velar varieties ([g] initial and after
> > [N], [G] medially otherwise (which > [x] finally)) and palatal
> > varieties ([j]; *[J](voiced palatal plosive)>[dZ] after [n]).
> > The palatal varieties arose from PGmc *g (plosive and fricative)
> Actually PGmc *g must have been fricative everywhere (except perhaps
> after *n) because it yields [x] or [G] everywhere but after *n in
> Dutch.

How do know that's not a generalization of something like the OE state
of affairs?

Berlinerisch has /g/ > /j/

Dutch /G/ > /x/ is an innovation which goes with /v/ > /f/ and /z/ >
/s/, which all set it apart from Flemish.

I listed a long list of Germanic words here on Cybalist with dialectal
g-/w- and g-/j- alternation (with appr. that heading), but now the
stupid search function can't find it. Most looked like substrate
words, some had FU connections. Here's a g-/j- one:
if that one doesn't have Gmc. ga- ,
and here a G-/w- one:

BTW: searching for 'jul' there's no find between November and
November, it seems December hasn't been indexed yet. I would like for
the moderators to consider talking to Yahoo about it.