Re: [tied] Franco-Provençal

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 63066
Date: 2009-02-16

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

> From: george knysh <gknysh@...>
> Subject: Re: [tied] Franco-Provençal
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 2:49 PM
> ________________________________
> From: Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:14:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Franco-Provençal
>
> > Franco-Provenç al, according to what I've read,
> is a
> > mis-nomer. The term came
> > because the FP group of dialects had some of the
> > innovations that French had
> > vis-a-vis Provençal, but not all.
> > It was once spoken in Lyons, Franche-Comté and
> surrounding
> > areas of France,
> > all of French Switzerland and Savoy. Its remaining
> > stronghold is Val
> > d-Aosta, where Valdoten remains the everyday language
> for
> > the locals.
> > Everywhere else, it is regarded as a patois spoken
> only by
> > the most
> > ignorant.
> > See Wikipedia and form your own conclusions
> >
> > ============
> > http://fr.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Orthographe_
> de_r%C3%A9f% C3%A9rence_ B
> >
> > 7 000 people in 1995 in Val d'Aoste
> > What a stronghold !
> > Fortunately, a maoist Movement Harpitanya is actively
> > promoting liberation.
> > What a relief !
> > Should be saved from extinction.. .
> >
> > A.
>
> I think the English version says 70,000. Leave it to those
> linguacides in French Wikipedia to decimate the language ;p
>
>
> ****GK: The following might be interesting to list members:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Charter_for_Regional_or_Minority_Languages
>
> ****
That Charter definitely comes up short. There are about a dozen Ibero-Romance languages spoken in Spain, to give an example.