Re: Kuhn's ar-/ur-language

From: tgpedersen
Message: 62984
Date: 2009-02-12

> >
> > UEW
> >
> > an,tV (on,tV) "Horn" U
> >
> > Ostj. (34) V an,&t, DN on,&t, O an,&t "Horn" |
> >
> ========
> Torsten,
> I already told you this is *amt "horn"
> and Ostyak *aN&t is something else.
> A.
> ========

I am quoting the UEW, and you haven't yet changed the text of that.

> >
> > utka "Spur" U
> >
> ========
> I told you this is *ox&t
> A.
> =====

You say a lot things. Either form would suit my purpose fine, which
you would know if you'd been paying attention.


> Agðir name eines gebietes in S.W. Norwegen (viell. das lat.-germ.
> augandzi, falls statt agadii bei Jordanes, s. J.V. Svensson, NB 5,
> 1917, 141) -wohl zu einem wort *agð- 'scharfe Landspitze', vgl. ae
> egeðe, ahd egida 'egge' (s. Hj. Lindroth, NB 6, 1918, 66-7);
> anders, aber weniger ws zu ág 1 (v. Grienberger, ZfdA 46, 1902,
> 165).
> vgl. Egðir 2 und egg 1.
>
> =====
> I can't read you, darling.
> A.
> ======

This is the second time you go down that path.
I thought you told us you were a happily married man?


> Identical (cf. initial n,- and w- in the Samoyed reflexes of *utka-,
> which might be original, ie. from *n,utka-),
> =======
> Hitch is no *utka but only *ox&t
> A.
> ====

Hitch is a film director, and you are an amateur with too much time on
your hands. Make it *n,ox&t- for all I care.


> [I'm sorry I deleted most of your blAkspruttning and only kept your
> name]
>
That squid name seems to have gotten to you.


> Reading you, I was thinking about dear poor M. Gwin wriggling on
> his chair wondering what purpose you pursue.

No, you weren't, you hypocrite, you were hoping to get Chris to stop
me somehow, since you can't do it yourself.


> For your own information, even though you often wrongly do not heed
> what I tell you, I currently have a very instructive discussion on
> another list about clusters like -nt- -mt- and -Nt- in Uralic. This
> forces me to check all cases and this ultimately makes way for my
> little theory that Uralic (UEW) *k�te "hand" must in fact be
> reconstructed *kanti, which is the original source of Germanic
> *handi.

That's very interesting. I've thought the same since I first read the
proposal in Schrijver's language of geminates. Do you have an URL to
that list?


> As a matter of fact, my proposal with only four vowels and two
> original clusters -mt- and -Nt- resists refutation.

You always do.


> It's simpler and, on top of that, it makes free-of-charge
> connections with Altaic !
> I may have underestimated Uralic and Altaic proximity.

Very interesting.



Torsten