Re: Kuhn's ar-/ur-language

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 62980
Date: 2009-02-12

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Subject: [tied] Re: Kuhn's ar-/ur-language




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> UEW
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> an,tV (on,tV) "Horn" U
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> Ostj. (34) V an,&t, DN on,&t, O an,&t "Horn" |
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Torsten,
I already told you this is *amt "horn"
and Ostyak *aN&t is something else.
A.
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> utka "Spur" U
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I told you this is *ox&t
A.
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Agðir name eines gebietes in S.W. Norwegen (viell. das lat.-germ.
augandzi, falls statt agadii bei Jordanes, s. J.V. Svensson, NB 5,
1917, 141) -wohl zu einem wort *agð- 'scharfe Landspitze', vgl. ae
egeðe, ahd egida 'egge' (s. Hj. Lindroth, NB 6, 1918, 66-7); anders,
aber weniger ws zu ág 1 (v. Grienberger, ZfdA 46, 1902, 165).
vgl. Egðir 2 und egg 1.

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I can't read you, darling.
A.
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Identical (cf. initial n,- and w- in the Samoyed reflexes of *utka-,
which might be original, ie. from *n,utka-),
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Hitch is no *utka but only *ox&t
A.
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[I'm sorry I deleted most of your blAkspruttning and only kept your name]

Torsten

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Reading you, I was thinking about dear poor M. Gwin wriggling on his chair
wondering what purpose you pursue.

For your own information, even though you often wrongly do not heed what I
tell you, I currently have a very instructive discussion on another list
about clusters like -nt- -mt- and -Nt- in Uralic. This forces me to check
all cases and this ultimately makes way for my little theory that Uralic
(UEW) *käte "hand" must in fact be reconstructed *kanti, which is the
original source of Germanic *handi.
As a matter of fact, my proposal with only four vowels and two original
clusters -mt- and -Nt- resists refutation.
It's simpler and, on top of that, it makes free-of-charge connections with
Altaic !
I may have underestimated Uralic and Altaic proximity.

A.