Re: IE roots or Gmc innovations?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 62834
Date: 2009-02-05

On 2009-02-05 12:19, the_black_sheep@... wrote:

> > *leb-j-on- > *lipjan- > *lippan-, I suppose (with the WGmc. gemination
> > before *j).
> >
> That's why I have a problem with this example. *e > *i and WGmc
> gemination obviously, so *lipj-; but following that:
> - the suffix *-on > *-an would subsequently disappear, leaving *j > *i
> > e or Ø
> - *-an- with sth else following would remain
> - *-o:n would result in -u or -e
> - only a trimoric *o:o would correspond to OE -a, like OE guma
> Unfortunately I don't know enough to hazard a guess, hence my question.

Of course <lippa> is like <guma, hara, hunta> etc. I wrote *-an- to
indicate a nasal stem (the "something else" that follows is an
inflectional ending). In masculines, the final *-o:(n) of the PIE
nom.sg. may have become "trimoric"/"circumflex" *-o:: already in
pre-Gmc. times (Jasanoff 2002). The inner Gmc. developments of the
auslaut of nasal stems are very difficult.

Piotr