Re: Uralic Loanbwords in Germanic (was: * Re: Push (3))

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 62483
Date: 2009-01-13

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@...>
> Subject: [tied] Uralic Loanbwords in Germanic (was: * Re: Push (3))
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 3:41 PM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet"
> <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
>
> > If Proto-Germanic has more Uralic LWs than
> Balto-Slavic does,
> > What was the position of these sub-families at that
> time ?
> > Do you seriously think Balto-Slavic originally was
> more eastern than
> > Germanic but did not receive any LWs ?
> > Your theory is not even coherent.
>
> I will pedantically point out that Uralic actually extends
> further
> West than does Balto-Slavic.

B-S may have once been farther south. Some of the Thracianists claim that B-S is the closest living relative of Daco-Thracian. If, so, perhaps B-S was once in the Carpathians and W-Ukraine.


>
> More seriously, Uralic currently borders Germanic on the
> *North*
> rather than the East. Whether this border was significant
> for
> Proto-Germanic may be another matter - it doesn't look
> settled to me.

I've seen references to Saami as penetrating into S. Scandinavia. So it seems to have been just next to the Jastorf people(s).