Re: Thracian, etnonym's etymology

Lithuanians have that root too - word PATRAKES (PA + TRAKES) means
WILD. It can be related to Lithuanian word TRIKTI, SUTRIKTI, meaning
TO DISCOMFIT, DISCONCERT, DISTURB, FLOUNDER too.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Anatoly Guzaev <anatoly_guzaev@...>
wrote:

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> And what if the town of Trakai was placed in Latvia? Would it then

be related to Latvian trakais (loony, nut-case; word probably related
to Russ. ÄÕÒÁË-durak 'fool')? What a great discovery, Thrace/Trakia
the land of lunatics?

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> Please, don't take my above joke too serious but I think you should

be a little more careful before you put forward similar
uncorroborated, and I personally believe, unprovable assumptions.

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Aigius" <segijus@> wrote:
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> > I think that name can be related to Lithuanian word TRAKAS,

meaning

> > GLADE, UNDERBUSH, UNDERGROWTH. Also compare with name Trakai the

old

> > capital of Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@>

wrote:

> > >
> > > What would be the etymology of Thracia (place) and Thrax

(people)?

> > Is it the place name after the people, or vice versa (chicken-egg
> > dilemma)?
> > > The Thracians appeared in Attic myths as a kind of fictional
> > northern people (or pre-people), linked to Boreas and Ares).

Could be

> > thrax mean something like "north"?
> > > Could be do:ros and thrak- two divergent (dialectal) forms of

the

> > same pre-Greek word? If we see do:ros as *dorHos, thrak- could be

a

> > cognate, from an older proto-form *drx, *trx-, *Trk- (T = th).
> > > a- ANother possibility is relate them to Anatolian root *tarXu-
> > (cf. Tarhunza, Tarquinius, Tarkhon).
> > > b - Alternatively, Do:ros could be a "Macedonoid" cognate of

PIE

> > (dHersos, dHorso. dHrsu "strong, bold, dareful")
> > > c- or... maybe they came from root *dHwer- "door, outside",
> > something like the "outside people" ?
> > >
> > > JS Lopes
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