Res: Res: [tied] The -SG- in Greek (PELASGOS)

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 61655
Date: 2008-11-15

Yes, *khtongne:tos would be the Greek form, but I'm sugesting that Gigant- came from a IE Pre-Greek language. It's IE, but not Proto-Greek. Ge: and Da:, both meaning "earth", point to a *dHg^hm- root, giving first  *dga:, and further with two divergent developments: *dga: > *ga: (ge:) and *gda: > da:. Since *g^H > *g, this can't be regular Greek, but a IE substratum or adstratum, akin to Illyric, Albanian, Thracian, Armenian, or anymore else..

JS Lopes


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Assunto: Re: Res: [tied] The -SG- in Greek (PELASGOS)


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Subject: Res: Res: [tied] The -SG- in Greek (PELASGOS)

Gigant < *dHg^Hm-g^nh2tos "earth-born" would make this name equivalent to
Greek ge:gene:s.

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I suppose *dHg^Hm-g^nh( 2 ??)tos should surface as *khthon-gne: -tos in Greek.

The next point, more interesting, is the existence of any laryngeal in the
*gen(H1) "generate" root.
I think Greek has e-gen-to with no laryngeal at all.

What is to be thought about this Greek form ?

A.
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The reduplicated form is also plausible, but I think "regular" Greek would
be *gegne:tos or *gigne:tos, instead of gigant-; could be also *gi-gnh2-t-.
But would it mean just "The born ones" ?

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I think originally *gen does not mean "to be born" but "to be legitimicized
as a child by the father".
You can be "born" (by the mother) and not be "generated" (by the father).
In that case, you're just a fatherless bastard.

A.
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Idas, a twin that was enemy of the Dioskouroi, was a great devourer; that's
why I think his name fits into *h1edont-. Regular Greek would be *edont-,
not idant-
JS Lopes

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I first thought of Y_d "hand" when reading Idas
A.



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