Re: oldest places- and watername in Scandinavia

From: tgpedersen
Message: 61539
Date: 2008-11-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2008-11-11 19:40, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > > Does such a ghost haunt *waskanã 'wash' as well?
> >
> > Erh, what?
>
> Another closed syllable (ruling out any Brugmannoid effects).

You're right I'd have to appeal to analogy.
So would you with your composite class VI.

> > > Are the Skt. /i/ in <ániti> and Gk. /e/ in <ánemos> ghosts of a
> > > departed quantity?
> >
> > Actually, that's exactly what I think h1 denotes. No one knows
> > what kind of phoneme it was, except that it causes compensatory
> > lengthening. But so many consonants cause compensatory lengthening
> > when they go. The cognates of *dheh1- in FU has a velar in
> > auslaut, maybe that's the one that caused it in IE?
>
> I have no idea what "a ghost of departed quantity" is, but there's
> at least one thing we do know about *h1: it was a consonantal
> segment. That's enough as far as my argument goes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_of_departed_quantities

> The fine phonetic details are irrelevant.

They interest me. If I get a chance to replace that PIE ghost with a
live PPIE phoneme, I take it.


Torsten