Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovelar Approximant

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2008-11-02 07:30, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > Aren't Gmc. wa- and ja- stems thematicized old u- and i- stems? If
> > so, I could claim
> > *´-uo-, *-uó- > *-´uo, *-wó- > *´-u-, *-wá- > *´-u, *´-wa
> > *´-io-, *-ió- > *-´io, *-jó- > *´-i-, *-já- > *´-i, *´-ja
>
> In general, no. For example, <teoru> comes from *derwo-, a thematic
> derivative already in PIE.

But I said 'thematicized', not 'thematicized at some time after PIE'.

> Most instances of *-jo- or *-io- > Gmc. *-ja- have nothing to do
> with i-stems.

Meaning that they are not documented without the -a- < -o- which
elsewhere is considered as the thematic vowel. Is that proof they
never existed? Was there a -io suffix independent of -i and -o?


Torsten