Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovelar Approximant

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 61189
Date: 2008-11-01

On 2008-11-01 11:07, Arnaud Fournet wrote:

> In other words,
> there is a "just-necessary" reconstruction *k^uo(:)n coherent with IE data
> and a "deep" reconstruction *kuH2o(:)n coherent with macro-comparative data.
>
> Did I miss something in your explanations ?

Yes, you did. It's true, *k^uh2on- is compatible with the disyllabic
variant of the attested shape of the nom.sg. (Skt. s'uva:, Gk. kuo:n).
On the other hand, however, it is incompatible with other case forms,
such as the gen.sg. (Skt. s'unah., Gk. kunos) or the dat.pl. (Skt.
s'vabHih., _never_ *s'uvabHih.), which unambiguosly point to *k^un-ós,
*k^wn.-bHís. If you want to do macro-comparative reconstruction, you can
propose whatever you wish as a Proto-Nostratic or Proto-Whatever word
for 'dog', but *k^uh2on- will not work for Indo-European.

> What other Dillman words are there ?

Lindeman, not Dillman, after Fredrik Otto Lindeman. The best-known
Lindeman variants are the 'dog' word, *dje:us ~ *di(j)e:us 'sky (god)'
(acc. *dje:m ~ *di(j)e:m), and *dwo: ~ *du(w)o: 'two'. Many further
examples could be given: *gWnah2s- ~ *gWn.(n)ah2s (gen. of 'woman'),
*g^Hjo:m ~ *g^Hi(j)o:m 'snowfall, winter' (gen. *g^Himós), *h1jents ~
*h1i(j)ents 'walking', *(dH)g^Hmos ~ *(dH)g^Hm.(m)os (gen. of 'earth)
*mneh1t ~ *mn.(n)eh1t (fientive of *men- 'think), and the like.

Piotr