Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: [pieml] Labiovelars versus Palatals + Labiovel

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 61150
Date: 2008-11-01

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>

>
> What it used to be is irrelevant; are you going to claim
> that it has three syllables because it once did?
>
> In fact the consonantalization of the initial of <oui> was
> already accepted by the 16th century grammarians, though
> fluctuations between /wi/ and /ui/ continued into modern
> French (Pope, ยง241).
>
> Brian
>
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Maybe part of the problem is we disagree on what is a phoneme.
(or you failed to understand what it is ...)

*/wi/ does not exist,
[wi] is just the same thing as [ui] = /ui/

And Pope is on my side, not yours.
She says what I'm saying.

Arnaud