Re: [cybalist_admin] Re: Pontic and other pre-/para-IE languages

From: dgkilday57
Message: 61068
Date: 2008-10-25

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
wrote:
>
> --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Arnaud Fournet <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
> > From: "Andrew Jarrette"
> > >> >
> > >> > Torsten wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Second, if some "early dialects"
> > did not have ablauting roots at
> > >> > > > all, then they might be Para-IE
> > dialects, but not PIE or IE. I
> > >> > > > like to think of PIE as late
> > "North Pontic", with the
> > >> > > > related "West Pontic"
> > giving rise on the one hand to Balkan-
> > >> > > > Danubian / East Mediterranean /
> > Pre-Greek, on the other to the
> > >> > > > LBK and TRB languages; West
> > Pontians who stayed at home ended
> > >> > > > up as Tripolyeans. But this goes
> > beyond the scope of the
> > >> > > > present forum.
> > >> >
> > >> > Torsten, I am fascinated by the ideas you
> > have presented here, and
> > >> > particularly by the idea of "West
> > Pontic" giving rise to Pre-Greek
> > >> > (but the others are fascinating too). Could
> > you direct me to the
> > >> > postings that discuss your ideas? Or
> > alternatively could you tell
> > >> > me about them now? And what are LBK and TRB
> > languages?
> > >>
> > >> Erh, it's not that I don't find those
> > ideas fascinating, but maybe who
> > >> you want to discuss thrm with is their author,
> > Douglas?
> > >
> > > Sorry, Torsten. I got the quotes wrong, plus I guess
> > they sounded
> > > similar to different ideas you have presented
> > previously. In the
> > > meantime, Douglas, if you read this, the above
> > comments apply now to
> > > you. Where can I find more information on the ideas
> > you have
> > > presented, mentioned above?
> >
> > It would be nice to discuss this topic on the main list,
> > as I believe this is of common interest
> > (with no "administrative" content)
>
> Let's take it over to the Nostratic list, then. But keep me in

I didn't know the Nostratic list was still around. They say one
should read a list for six weeks before posting anything, so that's
what I'll do while I cobble together a sketch of Pre-Greek as Para-
IE. I'm not a "Nostraticist" and my views have little to do
with "classical" Nostratic theory, so I hope N-list members will cut
me some slack. In the meantime I have my hands full in THIS forum; I
promised detailed expositions of 'cat' and 'path' months ago, and I
must also answer more recent questions about morphological parallels
to <accipiter>, Rustic Latin phonology, Veneto-Illyrian diagnostics,
and purported Indo-Iranian hydronyms in NW Europe (admittedly a
retread of Kretschmer's theory of Scythian hydronyms in Britain, with
the stratum back-dated a millennium or so).

DGK