Re: long, flat, full

From: tgpedersen
Message: 60622
Date: 2008-10-06

> > If you have something else to propose, please do.
> > Arnaud
> > ============
> Actually I've done that already: the ST *pl- "full" and "flat" roots
> were loaned into various AA and IE and other languages as part of a
> 'Kulturkugel', a set of 'Wörter und Sachen' connected with the
> fundamentals of agriculture, part of the interconnected
> theological/practical set of words on the skeleton of
> *(a)p/bh-r/l-
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Op.html
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Opr.html
> which is why it is present in so many language families (the Peter
> Bellwood hypothesis).
> ===========
> Personally I would not mix everything up in this way.

I didn't mix it up. People did. And then they died.

> I don't understand the relationship between your references
> and the words full and flat.

The *akW/p- root is the primeval river.
The *bh/p/-l/r- root is crossing the river, dividing stuff, going
across the river of life and death, etc. The various *plen,- etc stuff
has to do with dividing space, surface, line into two, to create a
bounded space, surface, line, and so is semantic subfield of the
*bh/p-l/r- root.

BTW, looking for something else, I came across
Lawrence A. Reid
The Current status of Austric, in
The Peopling of East Asia, p. 156, the Hayes list
'split
Proto-Austro-Asiatic *(ba)l.aq(i)
Proto-Malayo-Polynesian *belaq
Katu blah 'split',
Kharia (V304) la'j 'slice', Khmer -la's 'separate, detach'
Comments: The Katuic form is cognate
with reconstructed forms in PMong
*blah, as well as in three branches of
Bahnaric (Thurgood 1999: 284) so is
probably not a Chamic borrowing.
'


Torsten