Re: long, flat, full

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 60613
Date: 2008-10-06

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
> Subject: Re: [tied] long, flat, full
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:01 AM
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet"
> <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> > >> >
> > >> I don't think these words have remained
> unchanged :
> > >> If we look at Chinese :
> > >> *pol "full"
> > >> 1. Suffix ng : polng
> > >> 2. l > yod (a common north Asian change)
> poyng
> > >> 3. voiceless becomes aspirated pHoyng (ST
> change)
> > >> 4. no "throat effect" hence pHoyng1
> (Chinese change)
> > >> 5. vowel split o > wo (northern Chinese
> change) pHwoyng1
> > >> (Cf. Baxter *ph(r)jong)
> > >> 6. labials become f when followed by w foyng1
> > >> 7. Modern Mandarin feng1
> > >>
> > >> What makes you think nothing happened ?
> > >
> > > So, seven changes in 50,000 years. That's
> approximately one change
> > > each 7000 years. So Chinese hasn't changed in
> 7000 years?
> > > Torsten
> > =========
> >
> > I don't buy your periodizing method.
> > There is no reason changes should occur at a
> metronomic pace.
>
> Well tell me which one you use then. Whichever other
> 'periodizing'
> method you use, the word will have been unchanged at least
> once for
> more the 7000 years.
>
> > This word was already mono-syllabic,
> > It changed less than most other words.
>
> Do you have special rules which affect only polysyllabic
> words?
>
> > What do you mean "au juste" ?
>
> What do you mean by that?
>
>
> Torsten

au jus --a roast beef sandwich with broth based dipping sauce. Ain't you never ate diner food?