Re: long, flat, full

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 60599
Date: 2008-10-06

----- Original Message -----
From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
>> I've been talking of correspondences and super-cognates.
>> The answer is
>> 4. ST, PAA, PIE and Yukaghir inherited the roots from a common
>> ancestor.
>> Hoping this time you may get it !?
>> I'm ready for a fifth attempt at stating the same.
> So the answer is 3). You didn't mention that. Presumable we're talking
> 11,000 - 12,000 years ago then. How come these words are preserved
> relatively unchanged all those years in those languages, while other
> words are not?
> Torsten
Your recent datation is inadequate.
- 9000 BC is after PIE split.
So it's certainly not the right time.
These words must be about -50 000.

I don't think these words have remained unchanged :
If we look at Chinese :
*pol "full"
1. Suffix ng : polng
2. l > yod (a common north Asian change) poyng
3. voiceless becomes aspirated pHoyng (ST change)
4. no "throat effect" hence pHoyng1 (Chinese change)
5. vowel split o > wo (northern Chinese change) pHwoyng1
(Cf. Baxter *ph(r)jong)
6. labials become f when followed by w foyng1
7. Modern Mandarin feng1

What makes you think nothing happened ?