Re: long, flat, full

From: Arnaud Fournet
Message: 60590
Date: 2008-10-05

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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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> > My point of view about PIE *l is that this "surface"
> > correspondence covers more than one proto-phoneme.
> > When PIE *l corresponds with PAA *l as in *pel = full = Arabic
> > Hafil = Touareg balal,
> > the expected correspondence in ST should be yod.

Why?
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Because there are plenty of examples of that correspondence.
And these two words "full" and "flat" are two instances.
Arnaud
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> > For that matter, these ST roots are highly dubious.
> > Arnaud
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> You can find the real cognates in Starostin :
OK, so Matisoff is dubious because Starostin isn't?
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If you read my mail,
I do not rely on Starostin's reconstructions.
I just use the database because it's easy for everyone to look at it.
And Starostin's Chinese is from Yahontov.
Somebody much more serious and reliable than Matissoff.
Arnaud
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> And how do you explain that the two by two roots in ST and PIE are so
> phonologically and semantically similar?
> Torsten

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Because the root *p_l "full" is a super-cognate,
PIE + PAA + ST + Yukaghir
There is nothing to be "explained"
I can only describe the situation.

Arnaud
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