Re: Comparative Notes on Hurro-Urartian, Northern Caucasian and Indo

From: tgpedersen
Message: 60481
Date: 2008-09-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> At 12:58:50 PM on Saturday, September 27, 2008, Andrew
> Jarrette wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Arnaud Fournet" <
>
> [...]
>
> >> The only thing that really proves something is that
> >> Semitic *tel is reflected by PIE treyes "three". there is
> >> not a single word in Indo-European that is **tl- "three".
> >> This is a cognate, not a word that can be created about
> >> any time in the history of each Indo-European language.
>
> > Makes sense to me; are any other Cybalist members
> > convinced?
>
> That IE and PSem. words for '3' are cognates? No. By the
> way,
>
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Semitic_*%C5%9Bal%C4%81%CE%B8->
> gives the PSem. as *s'ala:þ- (*s'laþ-), with a list of
> reflexes; this is significantly different from Arnaud's
> *tel. I've looked very little at Semitic and AA, but
> according to Sáenz-Badillos, *s' is thought to have been
> belted-l (voiceless lateral fricative).

This is *the* site for numbers
http://www.zompist.com/numbers.shtml
IE
http://www.zompist.com/euro.htm#ie
AA
http://www.zompist.com/mide.htm#afro
For 'three' check out Austronesian
http://www.zompist.com/anes.htm (check also 'two')
and Niger-Congo
http://www.zompist.com/niger.htm

And, BTW, I consider them loans! not cognates
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/II.html
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/III.html


Torsten