Re: Negau

From: tgpedersen
Message: 60420
Date: 2008-09-27

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2008-09-27 17:53, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > Zbigniew Gol/a,b: The Origin of the Slavs, pp 366-8
>
> > ...First of all it should be stated that Germc. *plo:ga-, the
> > alleged source of PSlav. plugU, has no convincing etymology in
> > that linguistic group, so it is unmotivated from the Germanic
> > standpoint. Besides that, it was primarily restricted to German.
>
> I agree that it has no internal Germanic etymology, but I don't see
> why it should be regarded as restricted to German, primarily or
> otherwise.
> <plo:g ~ plo:h> is found in Old English, <plógr> in Old Icelandic.
> The OE word was used mainly as a measure of area in the preserved
> texts ('a plough of land'), but there's nothing German about it.

I don't see that either. However Dansk Etymologisk Ordbog seems to
agree, for whatever reason:
'plov en; glda. plogh, no., sv. plog, oldnord. plógr m., mnty. plo:ch,
oldhty. pfluoh, ty. Pflug; oldeng. plo:h, plo:g 'plovland', eng.
plough er lånt fra nord.; jf. longobard. plo:vum, plo:vus.

Af omstridt oprindelse. Ordet synes i Skandinavien, hvor det
fortrænger ard, at være lånt fra Tyskland. Dersom det er germ., kan
det høre til sa. rod som II. pleje og pløk, Snarere er germ. *plo:Gum,
*plo:hum dog måske en betegn. for 'hjulploven', der skyldes lån fra en
mlat. form besl. med nord-ital. ploxemum 'vognkurv' og lat.
plaustrum, plo:strum 'fragtvogn'. Fra germ. er ordet lånt østpå: lit.
pl:~ugas, oldkirk. plugU. — Jf. pløje.

Litt.:
Jost Trier: Pflug. Beitr. LXVII (1944-45) 110-150. —
Heinrich Wagner i Etymologica. (Tübingen 1958) 835-838. —
W. Mitzka i ZAA VI (1958) 113-118. -
S. Potter i Prace filologiczne XVIII (1964) 103-108. -
Ragnar Jirlow: Die Geschichte des schwedischen Pfluges. (Sthlm. 1970). —
V Pisani: Indogermanisch und Europa. (München 1974) 48-50.'


I suspect the Langobard. -v- reflects -w- of the source, 'naturalized'
as -G- in Germanic, cf -g- < -G- < -w- (according to some!) in Slav.
adj m.n. gen.


Torsten