Re: Asian migration to Scandinavia

Dear James,

At least two persons here believe Germanic people came from the east.
M. Pedersen and me,
I go as far as stating that proto-Germanic is not a western IE language but
a far-eastern language, that was originally spoken east of Indo-Iranian and
in the neighborhood of Yeniseian, Tokharian and Uralic people, in western
Siberia.
Your information is very much stimulating !
Thanks !

Can you tell more about this "severed head" ?

Arnaud

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Dow Allen" <jamesdowallen@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: [tied] Asian migration to Scandinavia


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> Having zero expertise on any linguistic question,
> I've been lurking harmlessly on this list; but
> recently something caught my eye:
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> koenraad_elst wrote:
>> Wow, [Snorri]'s pretty sophisticated.
>> ... Of course, the immigration of Germanic
>> from the east was already pretty far removed in time from Snorri, a
>> few thousand years ...
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> Snorri focused on myths of Odin, not Tuisto.
> He may have been able to "remember"
> a journey from Asia because it had happened
> only hundreds, not thousands, of years earlier.
> There is archaeological evidence in Scandinavia,
> beginning in 5th century AD, of Scythian/Sarmatian
> artifacts and burial practices, and the R1a
> Y-chromosome haplogroup present in Scandinavia
> could be explained by immigration of originally
> Iranian- or Hunnic-speaking warriors.
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> The 6th-century historian Procopius explicitly
> writes of a 5th-century defeat of Heruli-Goths
> in Illyria by Romans, after which some Goths,
> led by their royalty and presumably accompanied
> by Sarmatians or Huns, journeyed back to Thule.
> Snorri's stories refer to Huns, and there is
> even a curious parallel involving the display
> of a severed head, between a myth of Odin
> and the factual slaying of Gainas by Uldin the Hun.
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> I have no expertise on these matters either, so
> view this post as "asking" rather than "telling."
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> James D. Allen
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