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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "indravayu" <sonno3@...> wrote:
>
> [DGK]
> > Of the three explanations proposed here for <Pari:sii:>, Hans
Kuhn's
> > seems to me by far the most plausible. Xavier Delamarre would
have
> > us believe that they were eponymously descended from Ma and Pa
> > Kettle. Chris Gwinn's 'Makers, Doers' are too generic, unless
they
> > were the original 'Masons', heck-bent on secretly running the
world
> > from Paris.
>
> Have you made any kind of study of Celtic tribal names from that
> period? "Makers/Doers" would have been a perfeclt normal tribal
name -
> and (as I believe I mentioned in a previous message) the name may
be
> cognate with the Welsh noun perydd "king, lord (also creator,
doer)".
What are your etymological details connecting <perydd> and
<Pari:sii:>? In particular, what is your explanation of the second
element of the ethnonym, assuming it goes back to *Kwr.-eis-yo:s or
the like? Does it form an objective compound, 'Those who Excite
Doing', hence 'Commanders'? I might be willing to accept that ...
> Compare other Celtic "king/lord/sovereign" tribal names such as
> Bituriges "Kings of the World/Existence",
Brigantes "Elevated/Superior
> Ones", Catuuellauni "Battle Sovereigns", Caturiges, "Battle Lords",
> Segouellauni "Victory Sovereigns", Uellauni "The Sovereigns", et al.
To answer your earlier question, I have made no SYSTEMATIC study of
Celtic ethnonyms, but I am not aware of any simple *Ri:ges, and the
names which are not obvious binary compounds have comparative force
(in my understanding, Vellauni = Superiores). If *kwer- figured at
all, I would expect a derived noun in a binary compound (perhaps
*Permanori:ges 'Kings of Karma'?). Kuhn provided a straightforward
geographical explanation of <Pari:sii:> along the lines of
<Arecomici:> or <Aremorici:>, and the only counter-argument I have
yet seen amounts to the a-priori assumption that there were no IE-
speakers between the Celts and the Germans. On the other hand, if
you can explain <Pari:sii:> IN DETAIL as derived from a native Celtic
binary compound, you will make Kuhn's analysis of this name
unnecessary.
DGK