kant-

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
>
> > > Hence from k-m?
> > > Arabic x-m-s (x = velar unvoiced spirant)
> > > Uralic kom-t, kum-en, hand, five, ten
> > > PIE pen-kwe : entire hand = five
> > > And as usual !!
> > > Germanic loanword from an Asiatic language : komt > hand
> > > And *hant-i being a "root-noun" does not protect it from being a
> > > loanword.
> >
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/21834
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/21865
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46175
> > http://tinyurl.com/2c4yse
> > Udolph denies a relation of the German placename second element
> > -hude, Engl. -hythe, "wood storage place, storage at a waterway,
> > ferry berth" to the appellatives (non-placenames)
> > AS hunt, huntian, Goth. fra-hinþan "hunt, catch",
> > but accepts
> > NLG hude, hüde "hiding place"
> > Gr. kanthós "corner of the eye", kontós "nail",
> > Welsh cethr "point, nail",
> > OHG hantego, handego "sharp, pointed",
> > Proto-Slav. *ko,t- >
> > Russ. kut "the end of a river",
> > Ukr. kut "narrow, angular bay"
> > Pol. ka,t "remains of old river bend"
> > In the sense "house" common in Slavic, in SSlavic in the sense
> > "house"
> >
> > cf. unshifted NHG Kante "edge, esp. of water"
> > assuming a sense "hidden" also unshifted
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46174
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46179
> >
> > and Grimm-shifted German Hode "testicle"?
>
> Oops, forgot
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46155
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/50267
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/50281
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/50293

Pokorny:
kan-tho- "Ecke, Biegung"; wohl aus kam-tho- zu kam-p- "biegen".
Gr. kanthós "Augenwinkel";
in der Bedeutung "Radreifen" Bed.-Lw. aus lat. cantus;
lat. cantus "eiserner Radreifen" ist wieder Lw. aus:
gall. (auch gallo-rom.) *cantos "eiserner Reifen, Rand, Ecke",
cymr. cant (daher ceiniog "Penny") ds.,
bret. kant "Kreis",
air. cétad "(runder) Sitz" aus *kanto-sedo-,
mir. cét "runder Steinpfeiler";
Ableitungen: gall. centelon, wohl "Pfeiler",
cantena, kantena dss.?;
auch gall. cando-soccus "Rebsenker",
lies canto-soccus (zu gall. succo- "Schweineschnauze, Pflugschar";
vgl. Jud Arch. Rom. VI 210f.);
abret. int coucant "vollständig";
mcymr. yn geugant ds.
(eigentl. "sehr erfahren" aus *kowo-kantos zu keu- "worauf achten",
lat. caveo:);
zu kant "Kreis" > "vollkommen"
vgl. acymr. lloergαnt "voller Mond";
cymr. cant "Schar", dazu mir. céte (*kantya:) "Versammlung",
wohl als *"Hundertschaft"
identisch mit cymr. cant "100" oben S. 92;
slav. *ko,tU m. "Winkel" in russ.-ksl. kutU usw.
WP. I 351 f., WH. I 155 f., Loth RC 42, 353 f., 47, 170 ff., Vendryes
RC 45, 331 ff.


Which I think (Pokorny doesn't) belongs to
Pokorny 2. ak^-, ok^- "scharf, spitz, kantig" und "Stein".

note the note
Schwundstufiges k^- steckt wahrscheinlich in den Stämmen
k^emen-, k^emel-, k^o:men-, "Stein, Himmel",
k^omor- "Steinhammer",
k^e:i-, ko:i-, k&i- "schärfen, wetzen",
k^u(:)- "spitz, Spiess".
to which I would add
*k^-ant above, Alteuropäisch -ant suffix.

Nice match semantically. The k^/k thing I don't worry too much about,
considering the performance of the *ak- root in Baltic.


Torsten