Re: English Lack of /a/ (was: The oddness of Gaelic words in p-)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 59388
Date: 2008-06-22

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] English Lack of /a/ (was: The oddness of Gaelic words in
p-)


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wordingham" <richard.wordingham@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:19 PM
> Subject: [tied] English Lack of /a/ (was: The oddness of Gaelic
words in p-)
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > > That is, I do not believe that any stage of PIE ever lacked /a/
> > > entirely.
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> > English does, with a few exceptions.
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> I don't see how one can claim that without conceding that Sanskrit
> lacked /a/. (The Sanskrit vowel usually denoted as /a/ is at least
> as high as [æ].)
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> Richard.
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> Patrick:
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> Richard, what convinces you that Sanskrit <a> is a front vowel, at any
> height?

Nothing. It was a lowish central vowel. I said it was at least as
*high* as [æ].

Richard.

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Patrick:

Then what about PIE <a:>? Do you believe it was a lowish central vowel also?

Why did <a> not survive in PIE?

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