Re: Charudes - Croatians

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 59290
Date: 2008-06-18

On 2008-06-18 00:35, tgpedersen wrote:

> Tsh, tsk. In 'Hervarar Saga'
> http://tinyurl.com/5uua2v <http://tinyurl.com/5uua2v>
> I find
> herváðir f.pl. "armour"
> Gol/a,b in
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/59262
> <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/59262>
> 'My contention is that PSl. *XUrvat- // *Xorvat- (a consonantal stem!)
> was derived from a common noun *xUrvU // *xorvU 'armor' (primarily
> 'horn-armor'), which should be treated as a prehistorical loanword
> from Germc. *hurwa- // *harwa-, the latter representing the PIE adj.
> *k'r.Hwo- // *k'orHwo- (cf. Gr. keraós 'horned' and Lith. šárvas,
> quoted above). The fact that the historical Germc. languages have not
> preserved the hypothetical *hurwa- // *harwa- may be merely an
> accident of history.'
>
> Apparently it did anyway. Well guessed, Gol/a,b!

Gol/a,b would surely have known that OIc. her-váðir = OE here-wæ:d
(literally 'army dress'). The first element is *xarja- 'army', the
second (OHG wa:t, OIc. váð, OSax. wa:di 'clothing') the same as in Mod.E
(widow's) weeds.

Piotr