Re: Scientist's etymology vs. scientific etymology

> English glottal stop exists in hypercorrect Spanish
> and is widespread in Salvadoran Spanish where <Santa
> Ana> comes out as /santa?ana/ and not standard
> /santaana/. You hear the glottal stop a lot in US
> Spanish, of course.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/33381
Apropos the earlier discussion on glottal stop and the difference
between singing in Germanic languages with a glottal stop type onset
of syllables vs. singing in Romance languages without that syllable onset:
Try comparing this 'Germanic' version of a Handel's "Crude furie"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcnsTFOeEBM
(note the choppy melismas) with this Italian version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JED7N0wTALw
modern version, up tempo, but still Italian onsets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxNRKA2qnxM
and for those that didn't get the point first time another Handel aria
with the same other Piotr from Poland, with the same style in tone onsets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wph-kKM1p3w

Music histories say that Händel was influenced by Italian opera.
Actually he's more like 'in your face, Italians!', cf the way the bass
and counter part jumps all over the place. It makes you fear the
protagonist has gone mad and dangerous. Händel is underestimated as a
source of rock, pop etc (through church music).

BTW here is something Italian that never could be made choppy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXG7jG7PLU
or in a real Italian version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2NPYEknePk


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