From: Joao Simoes Lopes Filho
Message: 59222
Date: 2008-06-12
>Is it possible to link bestia, bellua (monster) and belbus (hyena)?
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- stlatos <stlatos@> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> > > <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- stlatos <stlatos@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> > > McCallister
> > > > > <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > piztia is from Latin bestia, which is from ???
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If from any IE language it would be from
> > > > > *gWHexYr(o)+ (traditional
> > > > > *gWHe:r 'wild beast').
> > > > >
> > > > So, how do we get there?
> > > > I can see Latin fer- and Greek ther- coming out of
> > > > *gWHe:r-
> > > > What happened to the /r/?
> > > > Where does the ending -st- come from?
> > > > Can you explain at an easy level w/o
> > > abbreviations?
> > >
> > > It may not be from any IE language; it could be
> > > borrowed from some
> > > other group. If from IE xYr > rxY > ry > rc^ > sc^
> > > which had to be
> > > fit into Latin phonology; gYHw > gWH > bH (similar
> > > to Greek).
> > >
> > Okay, it's a bit less murky if you look at ther- <
> > *pher- and not from *dher- and you keep in mind Greek
> > /p-/ > /t-/
> > You want to hazard a step-by-step evolution?
>
> Of Greek? There are forms with ph- and th-. The changes were:
>
> gYHw
> kYHw
> kWH
> kYH before e in dialects
> tYH
> tH
>
> In other dia. KW > P or KW > K.
>