Re: Lusitanian --Bell Beaker?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 58931
Date: 2008-05-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "indravayu" <sonno3@...> wrote:
>
>
> > > > by calling me lazy and suggesting I google Lauran Toorians and
> > > > Peter Schrijver along with "Kelten" and "Nederland".
> > > > So I googled them. So the answer is 'yes', after a fashion,
> > > > since you didn't suggest that in your original post.
> > >
> > > Yes, I am quite aware of what I posted...
> >
> > In that case you are also aware that you didn't ask me to google
> > "Kelten" and "Nederland" in your original post, as you claimed.
>
> You are unreal...my second post in this thread, the FIRST one in
> which I suggested that you conduct your own search on Toorians and
> Schrijver, I also told you to add the keywords "kelten"
> and "nederland":
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/58899
>
> When I said "original" I was referring to this post.
OK, so 'second' = 'original'.
>
> Are we done arguing ridiculous semantics now?
See above.
>
> > > I am only bothering to engage in it this time because you
> > > originally made such an ill-informed statement about there being
> > > no evidence for Celts in the Netherlands.
> >
> > There is no archaeological evidence of Celts in the Low Countries
> > apart from the Belgae in present Belgium and their Celticity is
> > disputed.
>
> You just don't know what you're talking about - but hey, don't let
> that stop you from making a fool of yourself in a public forum!

Would you mind making a fool of me in a public forum by giving a
reference to finds of Celtic stuff in the Netherlands? I promise it
won't make me consider you my personal assistent.

>
> > > > Erh, aha. Who are those non-Hallstatt Celts?
> > >
> > > Most of the western Celtic world existed outside of the primary
> > > Hallstatt zone.
> >
> > Odd. Parts of a culture existed outside the influence of the
> > founding culture.
>
> Join us in the 21st century, Torsten...few Celticists now believe
> that Hallstatt was anything like a "founding culture"!

Apart from the whooping and cajoling, you're strangely vague on the
subject matter. Could you give us a short rundown on what Celticists
believe on the origin of the Celts in the 21st century?


Torsten