Re: Sandomierz

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> On 2008-05-29 10:49, tgpedersen wrote:
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> > What is the connection between the name of the
> river San and the town
> > of Sandomierz near its confluence with Vistula?
> > I was wondering whether that river name might once
> have been something
> > with *sand-, because
> > 1) the word for "sand" beheves very strange in
> various IE languages
> >
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/39637

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<http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/39637>

> > 2) perhaps the Old European/Venetic suffix *-Vnt-
> is involved too.
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> The modern spelling of the town name is
> folk-etymological (as if from
> "San domierza" 'San joins [the Vistula]'). The name
> is actually a
> possessive form of the once popular personal name
> <Se,domir>
> (*soNdo-mirU), like Kazimierz <-- Kazimir, etc. In
> Old Polish (and still
> dialectally) <e,> = [aN], hence Latinised
> <Sandomiria>. The first
> element is *soNdU 'judgement'.
>
> Piotr

****GK: Exactly. And it became denasalized as
"Sudomyr(+yer)" in Old Ukrainian renditions(where
"Sud, Sud(+yer)"= judgement,trial". Cf. a note on a
document of 1361 "a pysana g(h)ramota ou Sudomyry ou
den(yer) Svyatog(h)o YakuBa" (Slovnyk
staroukrajins'koji movy 14-16 st., II, p.399,col. 2,
Kyiv: Naukova Dumka, 1978).****

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