Re: a discussion on OIT: attention moderator

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> >
> > A simple logical well presented contra-argument will destroy
> > immediately any false ideea and any ideology that will be
> > constructed based on it.
>
> Oh if only that were true, but it is not, and sometimes
> it proves necessary to haul a madman out of the building
> in a straightjacket.

This haulage should be performed by a corps of mad-haulers who can not
suspected of any bias and partisanship in the assessment of his
wrongness.

> > Use that Argument in place to qualify an ideology as BAD, and
> > based on this to qualify the related people as being BAD.
>
> I think it's usually adequate to qualify the ideology as
> simply stupid,

How do you do that without a common frame of reference?
About the only thing you can do is point out its internal inconsistencies.

> and ask that its discussion be taken some
> place else, withholding comment, if possible, about its
> proponent, and there certainly never being justification
> for commenting on his family or nation.

Unfortunately, that ideology might be what upholds the group of the
proponent in question, and giving up the belief will make it crash.
Look what happened in the socialist block after they gave up the
doctrine. It's all more complicated than you would like to believe.
Linguistics is a dangerous thing. Most East European nations owe their
existence to it.


Torsten