Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists

From: george knysh
Message: 58677
Date: 2008-05-19

--- Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

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> --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> >
> > > They seemed to have been forced out --that was
> the
> > way
> > > things worked. In any case, they were refugees
> and
> > > there were supposedly tens of thousands of them.
> > > Everyone I've spoke to who is of Alsatian
> ancestry
> > has
> > > told me the same stories --that their ancestors
> > left
> > > there because it was always changing hands and
> > > religion.
> > > My Irish Dolan ancestors were forced out for
> being
> > > Catholics -actually shipped to America in chains
> > after
> > > the Siege of Limerick, so it worked both ways.
> > >
> > =========
> >
> > This is what the Herder's Lexikon says :
> > this was printed in 1904 when Alsace
> > was under German Rule :
> >
> > "Die Bevölkerung wurde durch eine gute Verwaltung
> > (D'Angervilliers 1716-24)
> > versöhnt, bewahrte aber Deutschen Character und
> > einen starken
> > Particularismus."
> > The population was reconciled thru a good
> > administration (D'Angervilliers
> > 1716-24), kept its German character and a strong
> > idiosyncrasy.
> >
> > I don't see any reason why the Germans in 1904
> > should have been complacent
> > with France's rule over Alsace.
> > The Article about Alsace does not mention any
> > wrong-doing by the French in
> > this area !!
> > I suppose that they would have been the happiest
> to
> > spew some bad words,
> > if that were possible.
> >
> > I still don't buy a word you say.
> > I think this is not real family souvenirs,
> > this is more the standard anti-French propaganda
> > that your ancestors have learned after 300 years
> > of life within English-speaking people.
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> > ===============
> The issue wasn't French vs. German at the time I'm
> talking about but Catholic vs. Protestant. My
> ancestors that came through Alsace were both French
> and German. They had to leave because --according to
> what they claimed, Protestantism was not tolerated
> in France

****GK: Cf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revocation_of_the_Edict_of_Nantes

Three of my colleagues in our Department happen to be
of Huguenot ancestry. One still has a family Bible
with a French inscription that on (I think it was
July) of 1685 "nous avons quitte le pays de la
tyrannie".****
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