Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists

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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: For MKelkar, Kishore and all those other anti-linguists


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
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> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
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> > > The next point is that Alsatia, which had voted to become French
> > > long ago, had been stolen from France after the 1870 war,
> > > and this is the cause for the next war.
> >
> > I hadn't about that vote. I can't find it in Wikipedia
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace-Lorraine
> > Tell me about it.
> >
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> Keep in mind that France stole Alsace from Germany c.
> 1700, which set off a wave of Protestant refugees to
> Germany, including many French-speaking Huguenots
> among them. Most probably ultimately ended up the US
> but many went to Prussia and took their animosities
> with them.


The one thing I didn't find in the Wikipedia article on Alsace is that
the French occupation of Alsace led to French control of traffic on
the Rhine so that they could strangle Dutch trade with Italy through
the Swiss passes, which led to the end of the Dutch Gouden Eeuw (but
fortunately the Dutch king before that had invaded England, with
domestic collusion of course, so the English could learn how
Parliament could rein in the power of their monarch, I learn on
Richard Starkey's series on Monarchy on my cable), which is not so
strange, since I made up that theory myself, but I think it holds.

Torsten

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Are you paranoid ?

Your article on wikipedia says that there was no economic border
between Alsace and German Provinces for years.
What is this strangling theory ?

I definitely prefer your substrate theories
even when I defer.

Keep by your core competences.

Arnaud
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