Re: beyond languages

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 58287
Date: 2008-05-02

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From: "mkelkar2003" <swatimkelkar@...>
> > >
> > > The complete idiocy is to put Indo-European in here,
> > > in a family made of Asiatic languages.
> > > So long as a super-family will start with that premice, it's
> >> dead-born.
> > >
>
> > How could anything European be connected to Asia? That just would not
> > make sense to a European.
> > M. Kelkar
>
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>> M. Kelkar
>> I don't understand what you mean.
>> I consider PIE originates in Anatolia (= ASIA minor)
>> and PIE is part of PAA (a north african family).
>> Arnaud

>That would make PIE an Asian langue. So why did you write the following?
>Is Asia minor different from Asia? M. Kelkar
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We can safely assume that for a very long time, human beings were not very
numerous and they were scattered over a very huge surface.
This makes very high the probability that early splits among human beings
according to anthropological, linguistic, etc points of view should be
coherent.
I suppose all works on that field agree with that first premise.

Most languages in Eurasiatic or Nostratic are North-Asian languages (Uralic,
Turcic, Eskimo, Mongol, etc).
This means PIE should be a "yellow-race" language.
It's obviously absurd : early speakers of PIE (say around -1000 BC) are
about all "white-race" people.
Kartvelian is also "white".
The only conspicuous exception in this group is Dravidian, which is neither
"white" nor "yellow"
and for that reason I think Dravidian is probably a far-off relative to PAA,
PIE, or North-Asiatic languages.

Consequently,
I consider that PIE is closely related with PAA (to the point of being part
of it).
I'm not putting "race" considerations before "language" considerations,
but it's absurd to disregard obvious anthropological splits when one is
trying to group together languages according to early divisions.
Apart from some Tchadic and Omotic speakers, about all PAA speakers are
"white" too.

As regards either Eurasiatic or Nostratic,
I don't think this work is useless.
Now we have measured the impact of IE languages on Eurasia,
we can throw away all words that look like IE,
and start working on what's left.

Arnaud

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