From: Rick McCallister
Message: 58043
Date: 2008-04-26
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Przemys³awMy question is who won?
> Ziobrowski <pmva@...> wrote:
> >
> > > As Germanic *o >> *a
> > > this is more an argument in the favor of my
> suggestion.
> >
> > > You mean proto-Kartvelian is better than
> Georgian to explain *sajwa.
> > > I agree with your link.
> >
> > OK, it looks promising but why should I believe in
> your promises? :)
> >
> > First, you should explain why Germanics borrowed
> words from Colchians,
> > Iberians or other Kartvelian peoples and not from
> some *North* Caucasian
> > languages.
>
> I have not studied North Caucasic vis à vis proto
> Germanic.
> As regards the reasons why LWs were possible, I have
> made no secret I
> think Germanic originates in a (eastern) place where
> LWs from
> Kartvelian, Early Uralic and Tibetan are possible.
> Arnaud
>
> > Second, you should provide more than one example
> of *believable*
> loanwords
> > from Proto-Kartvelian into Common Germanic.
>
> I have suggested :
> zoGwa > zGar "sea" > sajwa
> zGarbi "hedgehog" > Igel
> saxli "house" > sal
> daq > tkha "goat" > Ziege
>
> Neolithic words.
> Arnaud
>
> >
> > >> What happened to the initial [s]~[z] in German?
> > >>
> > nom. sing. _zGarbi_
> > nom. pl. _zGarbebi_
> >
> > And 'bristle' is _dZagari_ :)
> >
> Dart is zaG (maybe in North Caucasic)
> It can explain such a word as hedgehog.
> Arnaud
>
> > You ignored my question ("What happened to the
> initial..."),
>
> Z is treated either as s or H2
> dz seems to be adjusted as d
> Arnaud
>