Re: gast

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "jouppe" <jouppe@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Peter P" <roskis@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Then one would also like to explain Permian cognates...
> >
> > Zyrian 'goz' and Votyak 'kuz'.
> >

>
> The etymology Gmc. *xanso: => finnic, saami & permic without
> irregularity in the sound correspondances on the Finno-Permian side
> comes very close to a chronological paradox and one should probably
> therefore assume <= pre-Grimm paleo-gmc *kanso: or even older

*kansa:

>

I checked: "without irregularity" is an overstatement here, there is
irregularity. So Permic should have borrowed the word from a more
western dialect if it is related. The borrowing being old, it may
still ba an attestation of anciennity of the Saami-Finnic word and
may be it bears some independent testimony of its meaning, but we are
on more shaky ground here.

SSA also gives a Mari word here with a question mark: kuz@...,
kuts^@k 'dowry'. At first glance I don't think it belongs here.

Jouppe