Marha (was: Arrows)

From: tolgs001
Message: 57824
Date: 2008-04-21

>And perhaps Hungarian <marha> /'mOrhO/ "cattle". :)
>
>It's known to be a Germanic LW into Hungarian.
>Arnaud

I've read it'd be an Austrian-Bavarian loanword. But isn't it
doubtful, given the importance of cattle breeding in all founding
tribes of the Hungarian state (Ogur-Turkic, Ugric, Oguz-Turkic
and Alanic) - as well as the existence of the local breed
called "Hungarian Grey Cattle" (magyar szürkeszarvasmarha, a
variant of the Podolic "macroceros" cattle)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Grey_Cattle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Animal_breeds_originating_in_Hungary

>What is your source ?

<<"The Ashina probably comes from one of the Iranian languages of
central Asia and means "blue">>. (Wikipedia)

As for analyses of genetic material, this text presents (in German)
the story of some genetic comparisons betw. stuff from the skeleton
of a Scythian warrior woman and some Kazakh or Mongolian people
encountered by an American scientist lady. The analyses were done
by a West-German specialized institute. (I saw the report on German
TV a couple of years ago.)
http://DNAprobe.notlong.com

George

PS: BTW, yesterday, on German public TV, there was another in-
teresting report on archeology finds by teams of the Munich
Archeology Institute (coordinator Hermann Parzinger) and Russian
teams, esp. the tomb of an old warrior (about 300 b.Ch.e.), "the
Olon Kurin Gol Man."

http://www.dainst.org/index.php?id=7014&sessionLanguage=en
http://www.dainst.org/index.php?id=3933&sessionLanguage=en

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/12/0,1872,1021580_idDispatch:7571326,00.html?dr=1

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http://www.dainst.org/medien/de/Mongolei_12-k.jpg
http://www.springerlink.com/content/q154rl0j8p281j22/