Re: On the ordering of some PIE rules

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57797
Date: 2008-04-21

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [tied] Re: On the ordering of some PIE rules


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:22 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re: On the ordering of some PIE
> rules
>
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> > On 2008-04-21 11:44, fournet.arnaud wrote:
> >
> >> Not just my problem,
> >> A word with limited IE dialectal extension,
> >
> > Not particularly limited. Apart from Germanic, Balto-Slavic and Greek,
> > it has an Armenian cognate as well.
> =======
> Nothing in Italic, Celtic, Anatolian, Toharian, indo-iranian.
>
> When is a word of limited extension, according to you ?
>
> I think this one is clearly of limited extension.
> Basically central PIE and only partially so.
>
> Arnaud
> ===========
>
> >> Do you seriously imagine that PIE can be reconstructed in complete
> >> ignorance
> >> of what languages are around IE languages ?
> >
> > It can't be reconstructed in the way you approach it, where ghost
> > connections with miscellaneous external groups are given as much weight
> > as solid IE material.
> >
> > Piotr
> ======
>
> It's not at all solid,
> and this should be the beginning of a clean inquiry.
> As a matter of fact, four kartvelian words with the same pattern exist in
> the same set of IE languages :
>
> zGva "sea" G.C sajwa ; Greek Aegian (sea), Anatolic ahhijawa,
> zGar "hedgehog" German igel ; PU *sejel
> dzixgi "goat" *ag-yos ; Sanscrit substrate cha:ga
> saxli "house-room"
> You have plenty of words in both IE and PU that display H_gh or s_H
> reflexes.
>
> Are you that blind ?
>
> Arnaud
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Patrick:

Are we going to start this insulting crap again?

Arnaud, learn some new words besides 'clear', 'clean', and 'blind'.


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